Happy points changes day!
Warhammer 40,000 Metawatch was published on the Warhammer Community today and there are a number of changes across a lot of factions. I’m singularly unqualified to comment on 99.9% of the changes and even the points changes for the factions I play – Chaos Daemons and Chaos Space Marines are largely beyond my limited understanding – but I’m going to try in the context of my lists.
Chaos Daemons
A nice easy one to start with. Chaos Daemons haven’t received any changes. Daemons remain a bit of a tricky one for Games Workshop to balance I’d imagine. They’re one army but they’re made up of 4 (and a bit) factions. Daemons as a whole aren’t doing badly (not exactly setting the world on fire either) but the internal balance across those God-marked sub-factions seems a little bit off to my Slaaneshi focused eyes. But, as a result, my Mono-Slaanesh lists remains the same:
Mono-Slaanesh Daemons Army List
The Yearning Throng (2000 points)
Chaos Daemons
Strike Force (2000 points)
Daemonic Incursion
CHARACTERS
Keeper of Secrets (305 points)
• 1x Phantasmagoria
1x Shining Aegis
1x Snapping claws
1x Witstealer sword
• Enhancement: Soulstealer
Keeper of Secrets (290 points)
• 1x Phantasmagoria
1x Shining Aegis
1x Snapping claws
1x Witstealer sword
Keeper of Secrets (290 points)
• 1x Phantasmagoria
1x Shining Aegis
1x Snapping claws
1x Witstealer sword
Shalaxi Helbane (450 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Lash of Slaanesh
1x Pavane of Slaanesh
1x Snapping claws
1x Soulpiercer
The Masque of Slaanesh (85 points)
• 1x Serrated claws
BATTLELINE
Nurglings (40 points)
• 3x Nurgling Swarm
• 3x Diseased claws and teeth
OTHER DATASHEETS
Seekers (80 points)
• 1x Heartseeker
• 1x Lashing tongue
1x Slashing claws
• 4x Seeker
• 4x Lashing tongue
4x Slashing claws
Seekers (80 points)
• 1x Heartseeker
• 1x Lashing tongue
1x Slashing claws
• 4x Seeker
• 4x Lashing tongue
4x Slashing claws
Soul Grinder (190 points)
• Daemonic Allegiance: Slaanesh
• 1x Harvester cannon
1x Iron claw
1x Scream of despair
1x Warpclaw
Soul Grinder (190 points)
• Daemonic Allegiance: Slaanesh
• 1x Harvester cannon
1x Iron claw
1x Scream of despair
1x Warpsword
Exported with App Version: v1.13.0 (41), Data Version: v373
Chaos Space Marines
Quite a few changes here!
Points decreases on all of the following:
- Chaos Bikers
- Chaos Terminator Squad
- Chaos Vindicator
- Cultist Mob
- Cypher
- Havocs
- Helbrute
- Daemon Prince
- Daemon Prince with Wings
- Legionaries
- Maulerfiend
- Possessed
- Raptors
- Venomcrawler
The thing that strikes me is that there are some good units in that list! Bikers, Vindicators, Cultists, Daemon Princes (with Wings), Legionaries, Possessed and Raptors are all units that are either already useful or were on the cusp of being useful with Legionaries, Cultists and Vindicators standing out as suddenly being a bit more interesting.
For me personally, the drop on the Legionaries on my MSU Rhino-Rush Creations of Bile frees up enough points for a free Cultist Mob (their points drop working to perfection here!)
Chaos Space Marines Army List
Creations of Bile (2000 points)
Chaos Space Marines
Strike Force (2000 points)
Slaves to Darkness
CHARACTERS
Chaos Lord (95 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Daemon hammer
1x Plasma pistol
Chaos Lord (95 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Daemon hammer
1x Plasma pistol
Fabius Bile (85 points)
• 1x Fabius Bile
• 1x Chirurgeon
1x Rod of Torment
1x Xyclos Needler
• 1x Surgeon Acolyte
• 1x Surgeon Acolyte’s tools
Lucius the Eternal (95 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Doom siren
1x Duellist’s sword and Lash of Torment
Master of Executions (80 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Axe of dismemberment
1x Bolt pistol
BATTLELINE
Cultist Mob (50 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Cultist Champion
• 1x Autopistol
1x Brutal assault weapon
• 9x Chaos Cultist
• 9x Autopistol
9x Brutal assault weapon
Legionaries (160 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
• 9x Legionary
• 5x Astartes chainsword
1x Astartes chainsword
1x Balefire tome
9x Bolt pistol
9x Close combat weapon
1x Flamer
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
Legionaries (80 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided
• 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
• 4x Legionary
• 2x Astartes chainsword
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Reaper chaincannon
Legionaries (80 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
• 4x Legionary
• 2x Astartes chainsword
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Lascannon
Legionaries (80 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
• 4x Legionary
• 2x Astartes chainsword
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Lascannon
Noise Marines (85 points)
• 1x Noise Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Doom siren
1x Power fist
1x Sonic blaster
• 4x Noise Marine
• 3x Astartes chainsword
1x Blastmaster
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
Noise Marines (85 points)
• 1x Noise Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Doom siren
1x Power fist
1x Sonic blaster
• 4x Noise Marine
• 3x Astartes chainsword
1x Blastmaster
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Chaos Rhino (75 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher
Chaos Rhino (75 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher
Chaos Rhino (75 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher
Chaos Rhino (75 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher
OTHER DATASHEETS
Chaos Land Raider (240 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher
2x Soulshatter lascannon
1x Twin heavy bolter
Chosen (130 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Chaos Undivided
• 1x Chosen Champion
• 1x Boltgun
1x Chaos Icon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
• 4x Chosen
• 3x Accursed weapon
3x Bolt pistol
1x Boltgun
2x Combi-weapon
1x Paired accursed weapons
1x Plasma pistol
Chosen (130 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Chosen Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Paired accursed weapons
1x Plasma pistol
• 4x Chosen
• 3x Accursed weapon
3x Bolt pistol
2x Boltgun
2x Combi-weapon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
Chosen (130 points)
• Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh
• 1x Chosen Champion
• 1x Boltgun
1x Chaos Icon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
• 4x Chosen
• 3x Accursed weapon
3x Bolt pistol
1x Boltgun
2x Combi-weapon
1x Paired accursed weapons
1x Plasma pistol
Exported with App Version: v1.13.0 (41), Data Version: v373
I do think that I may be having a look at a Vindicator and some Possessed moving forwards though…
How have the points changes worked out for you?
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